Comments on: The Utopia that Never Was https://americanconservativemovement.com/the-utopia-that-never-was/ American exceptionalism isn't dead. It just needs to be embraced. Sat, 27 Aug 2022 18:20:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Ben https://americanconservativemovement.com/the-utopia-that-never-was/#comment-4202 Sat, 27 Aug 2022 18:20:20 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=179448#comment-4202 In reply to Ben.

In other words, to shorten my long-winded post. It’s not the utopia that’s evil, it’s the pursuit of it that’s evil. It’s the ultimate sin of pride, mankind believing it can essentially become God, as one definition of utopia would be that everyone is perfect in all ways. If just one single person isn’t infinitely perfect in all ways, then there is no utopia.

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By: Ben https://americanconservativemovement.com/the-utopia-that-never-was/#comment-4197 Sat, 27 Aug 2022 15:27:52 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=179448#comment-4197 In reply to Ben.

The idea that evil brings about good is also the basic message of darwinism – that good has resulted from millions of years of continuous evil, and that continued evil will produce more good. The worst applied example of it, of course, being the nazis. Who wrongly believed, as many do today, that science can replace religion. It cannot. It never will. And it’s not even close. It falls infinitely short.

There is only one pursuit of utopia, in the history of mankind, that ever worked, and led to good things. And that is the pursuit of the utopia of Heaven, as outlined in God’s Word, by the work of Jesus Christ. And why has it worked? Because it’s true, that’s why.

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By: Ben https://americanconservativemovement.com/the-utopia-that-never-was/#comment-4195 Sat, 27 Aug 2022 15:12:44 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=179448#comment-4195 The particular Dostoevsky quote given would be a blistering assault on utopianism and the unattainable end ideal of communism, but not socialism – not the fascism, socialism, or marxism that pursues that utopia (the agenda, as the author puts it). In such systems, people are required to work. Alluding to the previous article on the fact that God put everything into motion such that excess is naturally produced, the socialist pursuit demands the opposite – that all waste be eliminated (even though scientifically speaking there’s no such thing as waste – it all feeds back into the ecosystem, and it all gets used as God designed, like a perfectly oiled machine). Capitalism, on the other hand, tends to produce excess, errs on the side of excess, and if implemented according to God’s standards, will reward those who are constructive and who don’t do nasty stuff with more excess. While those who don’t work, are lazy, who do nasty stuff, etc. have less.

In some respects, that quote would advocate for socialism, fascism, and other authoritarian ideologies that are essentially the pursuit of utopia, rather than utopia itself. Make people work. Allow no excess. And so on. Because of the belief that idle hands are always the devil’s workshop. The reason the man living in utopia would be inclined to do nasty stuff, in the context of Marxism, is because nasty stuff is what gave it to him in the first place – it’s the product of nasty stuff – greed, envy, theft, enslavement, etc. – all the nasty stuff the pursuit and production of that utopia would require.

As far as the yin-yang Confucianism mess is concerned, it’s extremely antithetical to scripture. The basic message, from a logical standpoint, is that evil is justified. Yet the truth is that it absolutely is not justified under any circumstances, for any reason. The idea that evil is justified in order to bring about good is the same reprobate thinking that exists in the wicked mind of every criminal in existence, particularly including the most genocidal maniacs in history. Many Christian apologists have destroyed the arguments of Confucianism far better than I ever could. But the idea that joy can’t exist without suffering, good can’t exist without bad, etc. is nonsensical. Just look at a young child. Innocent, hasn’t known suffering yet is happy, hasn’t known evil but is good, filled with awe and wonder at God’s creation, in peace, comfort, and security just knowing they are safe in the arms of their parents. It’s the same way with our Father in Heaven. It’s the reason He gave us His Word. It’s the reason He died for us. We don’t have to know evil in order to know good. We don’t have to know suffering in order to know joy and peace. Because of Him, evil has no place. The closest thing to utopia that has ever existed on this Earth is the Garden of Eden. And that’s where the Dostoevsky quote does not support Confucianism in the least – because the utopia came first – the good came first – the happiness came first. There is no interdependence between the two. One is not required for the other. Evil came as the result of disobedience.

There are unfortunately a lot of people in law enforcement and intel these days who believe in, or appeal to, Confucianism. They share that view with the worst of criminals. If you want to discover where and why they often go wrong, that might be an excellent place to start.

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