Comments on: Tom Renz: Separation of Church and State Led to the Decline of America https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/ American exceptionalism isn't dead. It just needs to be embraced. Wed, 17 May 2023 17:42:06 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: John Spinuzzi https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-13005 Wed, 17 May 2023 17:42:06 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-13005 In reply to Rumplestiltskin.

Hear, hear!

]]> By: cris https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12999 Wed, 17 May 2023 15:55:09 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12999 In reply to erobot.

Sorry, the links were messed up…

https://dnyuz.com/2023/05/16/anti-capitalist-pay-what-you-can-cafe-in-toronto-closes-after-one-year-in-business/

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]]> By: cris https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12998 Wed, 17 May 2023 15:53:45 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12998 In reply to erobot.

See, this would have worked if it was located in Amish Christian neighbourhood. This would have worked if parents tought their offspring to be just and righteous. But we living in ClownWest & the days of a righteous society have passed.
> https://dnyuz.com/2023/05/16/anti-capitalist-pay-what-you-can-cafe-in-toronto-closes-after-one-year-in-business/

> https://pic8.co/sh/GD5gle.jpeg

]]> By: cris https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12997 Wed, 17 May 2023 15:47:34 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12997 In reply to erobot.

Thé founders would not have, not even in their wildest dreams, ever thought that we would have such a cl0wNiSh population to believe all lies & deceit coming out of zero journalistic-integrity MSM, to be able to turn the USA into such a clown world where up is down and left is right.

]]> By: Rumplestiltskin https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12996 Wed, 17 May 2023 15:47:02 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12996 When the churches failed miserably at stopping Satan from eating us alive, people realized that the churches they attended could no longer sway the criminality of the socialist hell bent on turning American into Venezuela. And just as it was stated in the bible, when the Apostles confronted Jesus with their concerns that there are others out there who are also healing the sick and shouldn’t we make them stop? What did Jesus say……. Basically saying “If they are doing the work of God, then leave them be”. Does the church believe that our government is even close to doing the work it should, and here are the churches and clergy expecting us to turn the other cheek, because the church has become helpless in figuring out that it is the people they are supposed to help stand strong against criminality, and they do not because they may have their license to preach taken away, thus they have become party to the State’s need to keep us as slaves. Did you religious people not understand the words of Jesus and understand the man who overturned the Money Changers Tables in the temple when it was obvious the Sanhedrin had no belief they needed to stand strong against Rome and thus the Sanhedrin was instrumental in helping to have Jesus strung up on the cross !!!
WAKE UP CHRISTIANS, WE WILL NEED YOUR HELP TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT ALONG WITH US TO SAVE AMERICA, BECAUSE NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO TURN THE OTHER CHEEK !!!

]]> By: ThomasPaine2023 https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12992 Wed, 17 May 2023 13:53:21 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12992 America was subverted by Communists taking over the Democratic Party. This has zero to do with religion. Our founding fathers were deists. English Deism was an important influence on the thinking of Thomas Jefferson and the principles of religious freedom asserted in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Other Founding Fathers who were influenced to various degrees by Deism were Ethan Allen,] Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, Hugh Williamson, James Madison, and possibly Alexander Hamilton. Deism is the belief in the existence of God, specifically in a creator who does not intervene in the universe after creating it, Kevin

]]> By: erobot https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12991 Wed, 17 May 2023 13:50:09 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12991 In reply to Joe.

The First Amendment (of the U.S. Constitution) provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

]]> By: Anonymous1776 https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12990 Wed, 17 May 2023 13:45:53 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12990 “What a load of crap” is allowed as a comment, yet my assertion that government should not be regulating church speech through tax law is not allowed. Your moderation is garbage and not very conservative.

]]> By: John K. Spinuzzi https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12988 Wed, 17 May 2023 13:25:48 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12988 In all actuality, what led to our present condition in this country (the root of it), was and is bad doctrine by the various denominations. ALL denominations have erroneous doctrine, which is to be expected when we divided up in these sects. Remember, Scripture warns us to “have no divisions (sects, denominations) among you.” Declaring only mercy and grace – without the necessity of following the Law of God – has led to this. The Law cannot save, but it is the responsibility of Christians (“If you love Me, keep my Commandments,” “Do we then nullify the Law by Grace? May it never be! We establish the Law!”) What was nailed to the cross, the “writings that are against us”, was not the Law, as Christ Himself declared that nothing of the Law would pass away until ALL was accomplished, but was the writings the Pharisees built around the Law, extending it to ridiculous areas. Thus Christ condemned them for this. We have brought this upon ourselves by wanting an easy life and ignoring the parts of Scripture that are ‘inconvenient’. Repent now, and get ready for the onslaught!

]]> By: Anonymous1776 https://americanconservativemovement.com/tom-renz-separation-of-church-and-state-led-to-the-decline-of-america/#comment-12987 Wed, 17 May 2023 13:22:38 +0000 https://americanconservativemovement.com/?p=192663#comment-12987 To me, the bigger problem with government and religion is current regulations limiting church political activity through tax law, including endorsing legislation or candidates. If the church can’t comment on the important issues of the day, they’re unable to provide critical guidance to the people. Meanwhile the devil’s allowed full reign on these issues, while church-going people are relegated to discussing old bible lessons from two thousand years ago, daring not to apply them too closely to current issues.

Religious leaders and others in the church should be free to speak about what they wish (1st amendment), even if the discussion delves into politics. The censorship of the church is a big part of what got us into this sorry state. I’m sure it was an early threat to power in this country that needed to be (and still does) neutralized.

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